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Re: Middle voice

From:JOEL MATTHEW PEARSON <mpearson@...>
Date:Saturday, September 26, 1998, 0:11
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Sally Caves wrote:

> Me thinketh hit hefigtime for aenig otherum menn > "To me it seems [that it is] difficult for any other man..." > > Me reweth, Marie, thy faire rod > "Me it pains, Mary, your fair face " > > Actually, the use here of the dative in such OE verbs reminds me strongly > of certain developments in ergative languages where the dative is used for > subjects that think, feel, presume, etc. Matt's Tokana utilizes this > development. Matt, was this an original construction for you or does it > occur in natural languages? Me feeling sad, to me feels sad.
Well, during the recent Tokana case reform (about which I posted a long message that nobody responded to), I decided to merge the dative and the locative into a single case form, and it is this case which subjects of perception/emotion verbs appear in: ikimne niohkoipa-s we-DAT/LOC recognise-them "we recognise them" isan kesta they-DAT/LOC be.happy "they are happy" This use of an oblique case to mark subjects of perception/emotion verbs was indeed inspired by natlangs, although only a few natlangs have this kind of construction productively (Georgian is one, I think, as are the Carib languages of northern South America). As you noted, some Germanic languages have a small handful of verbs which take dative case subjects. In generative syntax, these are referred to as "quirky case" verbs. Matt.