Re: Middle voice
From: | Pablo Flores <fflores@...> |
Date: | Saturday, September 26, 1998, 13:28 |
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Carlos Thompson wrote:
> a) Vendemos esta fruta en el mercado.
> b) Esta fruta es vendida en el mercado (por nosotros).
> c) Esta fruta se vende bien en el mercado.
>
> a) Drenamos rapido estos campos.
> b) Estos campos fueron rapidamente drenados
> c) Estos campos se drenan rapido.
>
>Is the reflexive construccisn, we use in Spanish as pasive, actually a
>middle voice?
I was thinking about that -- especially remembering we were talking =
about unergatives and unaccusatives some time ago. If this is not a =
middle voice, I don't know what a middle voice is.
It must be something, because it's clearly not a common reflexive =
construction (it is, gramatically, but not semantically), but a type =
called pseudoreflexive. It's not active voice (fruit does not sell =
anything) and not passive voice (fruit isn't said to be sold be =
anybody).
--Pablo Flores
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