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Re: Your dictionary online?

From:kaleissin <kaleissin@...>
Date:Friday, September 28, 2007, 20:35
Have to use this address as there is trouble with the regular one :(
Lost the first reply to this...

On 9/28/07, David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...> wrote:
> Oh...wow. This has the potential to be huge, but I still don't > quite understand it. > > (1) What is <http://www.dict.org>?
A web-interface to the default dictd-server, which runs on dict.org, port 2628.
> Are you saying that when > you go to that page English-Taruven is going to be one of the > options in that drop down menu?
Nope, that interface only accesses a single server, namely the default one. I doubt they want to host dictionaries for conlangs.
> (2) You mentioned "online". Is it going to be attached to your > website?
Perhaps. It'd be an easy place to put up a web-interface, surely. Online doesn't mean "has webpage", btw. Email is also "online", as is ftp, YIM, AIM, MSN, bittorrent... and dict.
> The links you gave made it look like the thing was > online, but in order to view it you need to download an application, > which you can use on your computer,
The client runs on your machine and accesses a dict-server that runs on some other, online machine. It is possible to run such a server on your own machine too of course.
> but not necessarily online. > Is this a different thing from dict.org?
See 2). Dict.org is the home of the format and a good place to read up on it and find clients, servers and tools. And to access the standard package of dictionaries.
> (3) If this is your server, how exactly would we have access to > it?
You'd use a client, or a web-interface. There might be web-interfaces out there already that allows you to select a server manually. Dunno, as I use the standard client, which runs from the command-line. I'd type "dict concision" on the command-line and it'd spit out (between the =s): ================== 3 definitions found From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]: Concision \Con*ci"sion\, n. [L. concisio: cf. F. concision. See {Concise}.] A cutting off; a division; a schism; a faction. --South. [1913 Webster] From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]: concision n : terseness and economy in writing and speaking achieved by expressing a great deal in just a few words [syn: {conciseness}, {pithiness}, {succinctness}] From Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary [easton]: Concision (Gr. katatome; i.e., "mutilation"), a term used by Paul contemptuously of those who were zealots for circumcision (Phil. 3:2). Instead of the warning, "Beware of the circumcision" (peritome) i.e., of the party who pressed on Gentile converts the necessity of still observing that ordinance, he says, "Beware of the concision;" as much as to say, "This circumcision which they vaunt of is in Christ only as the gashings and mutilations of idolatrous heathen." ============== Very important tool for my lexicon-building, dict.
> Would we have to send you a .dict file for you to upload > yourself? And if so, should we be aiming for sending you a > finished .dict file, as opposed to updating it with a word or two > here and there as time goes by?
Easier to convert from XML than to make a dict-file (and its index) by hand. The format C5 is good too, it looks like this (between the =s): ============= Various info, for instance copyright _____ headword1 definition 1 _____ headword2 definition2 ============== That is: five underlines (_) followed by one blank line followed by headword followed by definition. I already have a converter from Shoebox MDF to XML to dict, but it's not too hard to make one from any consistent XML-format.
> I'd love to see how you implement this!
I have it running on a laptop already, just need to get it running on a machine that is online 24/7. Next week'll be too busy though. t.

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