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Re: Linguistic knowledge and conlanging (was Explaining linguistic...)

From:william drewery <will65610@...>
Date:Monday, July 26, 2004, 19:10
> > I whole-heartedly agree. I think the only > meaningful gauge for > > a conlang are its own design goals. For example, > if one was to > > present a philosophical language with > self-segregating morphology > > and a typologically unlikely phoneme inventory as > a near-extinct, > > pre-Indo-European minority language of the > southeastern Alps, > > I'd say that he has done a pathetic job of it. > But that doesn't > > mean that the language is not excellent from some > other point of view. > > Right. Clearly, Classical Yiklamu is the perfect > conlang and cannot be > surpassed (given a suitably narrow standard of > evaluation)... > > > > Or Old Albic would probably not be a good machine > translation > > interlingua, for example. > > No, you have to use Aymara for that. > > > -- Mark >
Right on!! (To throw in my square root of a cent's worth) I especially liked the analogy to music theory (which I unfortunately deleted too soon) Music Theory is just a generalization of what composers have *done*--indeed Bach and Mozart frequently bent the rules of the prevailing theories of their day. Jazz would be very difficult to accomodate using the theory Palestrina adhered to. I'm not even sure where Metallica or Godsmack would fit, but none could claim that what they do is not music or that their music is without a system. I would venture to say that the music of Megadeth or Dream Theater is as sophisticated as anything in the "Common Practice Era" but gets neglected by Acadamia because it breaks too many "rules". Similarly, much of the similarities and "universals" of natlangs owe much to their descendence from a common ancester or ancesters. Would anyone take seriously the idea of phonemic clicks if there were no Khoisan languages? Or the use of epiglottal phonation? What about nonconfigurational syntax or polysynthesis? Would the writers of the Tao Te Ching have believed that a few millinea later people would speak so analytically as to be unable to decide just how to translate their works? It is a wonderful jounrney we are on, discovering just how fluid the mind is. How little we know the possibilities. How much we know that ought to have been impossible. Travis __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail