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Re: Loss of Syllables

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, December 3, 2004, 7:27
On Thursday, December 2, 2004, at 12:27 , Carsten Becker wrote:


> But which syllable are likely to be lost?
Unstressed ones. Final unstressed vowels are particularly prone to disappear. Initial unstressed vowels also have a tendency to go.
> Are there some rules > or is the system indeed chaotic and depends on fashion or > social status, region or whatnot?
No - it is not chaotic. There will be a system, but it will depend to the dynamics of the language concerned. Other factors like fashion & status may give rise to the odd exception. In CL stress fell on either the second from last ('paroxyton') or third from last ('proparoxytone') syllable according to certain well-defined rules. In VL there was marked tendency, especially in the Iberian peninsula & in Gaul for stress to become second from last, so there was a tendency for the second from last syllable to be dropped in the proparoxyone words, e.g. oculu- --> *oclu- French: oeil, Port. olho, Span. ojo (<-- earlier /olo/)
> Is it just me or is there > much assimilation in the examples above?
There's some - but that's another matter :)
> > It's just because I was told Ayeri would be nice so far, but > the fictional speakers of course would not notice its beauty > and many syllables would get lost. "Nu-micyo-ican-eng" ... > *shudder* AGT-strong-very-COMPARATIVE_FOR_ADVERBS
I would suggest looking at one or two examples of languages where there has been extensive shortening of words over the ages. French is an obvious one and it should not be difficult to find information. Then try playing around with Ayeri in a similar sor of way and see how it goes. But it is not a random process - you will have to work the phonological changes from Ayeri to Neo-Ayeri - but it should be fun :) Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]