Re: My name in Rokbeigalmki, and my ideas for shorthand/code/etc...
From: | Daniel A. Wier <dawier@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, October 17, 2000, 0:52 |
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:31:35 -0400 Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
writes:
> > Danny Wier /d&:ni: wI@R/ (R is supposed to be the retroflex glide?)
> > Rokbeigalmki (?): Déní Wihgh
>
> Chevraqis:
> Danny Wier = Dani Uir
Of course, if anybody lacks a W in their language, they can substitute a
V. FWIW, my surname is *properly* spelled [Mac an] Mhaoir /we:r/, Gaelic
for "son of the major".
And I couldn't remember is Rokbeigalmki had the consonant /w/, so I
might've be wrong...
> > Also, this isn't exactly a conlang, but back in around 1991 I
> worked on a
> > form of numerical shorthand, used mostly for names. I had it
> based on
> > the Hebrew alphabet, thus a duovigentesimal (base 22) notation,
> but I'm
> > working on a base 20 system and maybe a base 36 system, the latter
> for
> > extended phonologies. I also had Arabic- and Aramaic-based
> > retroshorthands (right-to-left of course) worked out for English
> and
> > other languages; this came from my practice in writing my
> > then-sweetheart's name in Farsi two years back.
>
> Wow!
>
> In my personal note-taking "shorthand," I use determinatives à la
> what
> little I've read of hieroglyphics. So "com" without anything means
> "communications," "com" with a Chinese-like-man-symbol is
> "community,"
> "com with a misdrawn sickle and hammer above it (I couldn't remember
> just
> what the USSR flag looked like at the time and now it's just a habit
> to
> draw it wrong) is "communist," etc. Nothing so interesting as what
> you've done, though!
That sounds like Rap Lin Rie, Bob Petry's project to revive Dutton
Speedwords. (What happened to him anyhow?) Call it "abbreviated
Esperanto", since you have one- and two-letter words representing the
most common words, including particles, from languages like French,
English, German, Italian and what not. (I think I remember _a_ meaning
"at", _q_ meaning "what").
Something similar and less formal is the use for numerals for words, i.e.
2 = to, 4 = for, str8 = straight. And of course @ = at, & = and, and the
lesser-known ¬ = not...
What you have, using "com" for some word beginning with those three
letters (the rest one can figure out by context, usually), would be
written with the Arabic or (modified) Syriac letters "qm". (And I just
remembered -- Thaana is Arabic-inspired, used to write the Indic language
Maldivian, and looks like Gregg shorthand to me. I outta use that too.)
I still have to revive and work out what I remember about what I came up
with; it was a few years ago. I also have to adjust the basic premises.
I don't even know how many con-shorthands I'm gonna come up with.
But I'll keep y'all posted, naturally...
DaW.