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Re: OT: phat/vet/fat

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Saturday, July 13, 2002, 15:21
--- In conlang@y..., Joe <joe@W...> wrote:

 > > EvenLessObNatlang: why does one say 'here's hoping'?
 > >
 >
 >
 > Well, in some cases, 'here' seems to be a synonym for 'I'.  Usually
in very
 > bounded circumstances.
 >
 > I think it comes from this logic:
 >
 > I am here, therefore here is I

That doesn't make much sense to me...  I would think that the
formula comes from a meaning of offering: "Here's some hope of mine",
as in "Here's a penny for your efforts" or "Here's a toast to the
newlyweds".

Anyway, it's a good thing Americans don't take their verbal logic too
seriously, otherwise everyone would be suing jewelers for selling
fake gold rings...  they glitter, and everybody knows that "all that
glitters *ain't* gold"!

BTW, the logical negation of "All that glitters is gold" would be
"Not all that glitters is gold" or "Some things that glitter ain't
gold".


-- Christian Thalmann

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