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Re: Just a question...

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 12:42
Tristan wrote:
>Nik Taylor wrote: > >>Mangiat wrote: >> >> >>>Just a short question: are English diphthongs phonemic? >>> >>> >> >>Yes. Most monoglots aren't even aware that there's any difference >>between a diphthong like /aj/ and a monophthong like /I/. I remember >>thinking that diphthong meant "one sound written with two letters" cause >>I learned that combinations like "ae" and "au" in Latin were called >>diphthongs, and I didn't realize that they were actually combinations of >>sounds. :-) >> >Don't worry: you're in good company there. A lot of things about English >orthography on the Internet (you know, those things pushing for spelling >reforms and the like) insist on calling things like <th> and <ea> >diphthongs.
I'm afraid that the anglophone educational system(s) are causing alot of mental damage in this regard. I once read a pronunciation guide in an Swedish-English wordlist which asserted that Swedish don't a have length distinction for vowels, but an duration distinction. I was thorougly mystified till I realized until I realized that by "length distinction" they meant differences like /I/ vs /aj/, /{/ vs /ej/ etc that has arisen historically from real length distinctions. The"phonemic representation" in the wordlist used conventions like |igh|=[aj], |aa|=[E] and |ææ|=[e]. Andreas _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus