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Re: Verbal nouns

From:Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 3, 2000, 2:27
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Mario Bonassin wrote:

> I have a verb 'to vomit' and its being used as a noun as in 'the vomit > is on my shoe' should it be conjugated like a noun, or just have an > affix signifying its a noun, or would it be conjugated like a verb then > a noun. I'm looking for common ways of doing it.
I suppose it would depend on the language, which isn't a particularly helpful. I think Korean uses a gerund-like construction but I could be completely wrong. And we haven't gotten to this in German <G> but as far as I can tell, you can turn verbs into nouns and they *look* like they're usually assigned the neuter gender after the infinitive-ending -en is stripped, but someone who knows more about German would have to tell you. Chevraqis can treat verbs as nouns and nouns as verbs. In the first case, they decline like other nouns, and in the second case, you can conjugate them. Example: nabazu: to insult/be the enemy of, infinitive. Sjar naía nabazas: You insult me. The conjugation -as is present reportive. If you wanted to say "Insulting people is bad," you'd have to decline nabazu: nabaza (voluntary actor case) A related noun (triconsonantal morphology) is: nabasa: shame (given in voluntary actor case--this is how I list nouns for convenience) In the translation of "Shame is painful," nabasa would appear as is. But if you wanted to "verb" the noun, e.g. "You shamed me," you would say: Sjar naía nabasas in which nabasa is conjugated in the present reportive. This doesn't work or make much sense for every noun I have, but I'm working on metaphorical or poetic usages...eventually. :-) YHL