Re: Old European-contact conlang

Daniel Prohaska wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>I'm currently developing a conlang family of a population that migrated out
>of eastern Africa, through the Middle East, Anatolia, the Balkans, along
>the
>Danube, then into what is southern France today across the Pyrenees, then
>towards the southern tip of the Iberian peninsular. Then they develop
>seafaring capabilities, settle on the Canary Islands and from then on
>become
>a kind of Atlantic version of a Polynesian-type spread across the isles of
>the Atlantic.
Between the Canaries and the Caribbean area, I don't think the Atlantic is
very well supplied with islands.... Oh well ;-)

This migration goes on between 35 000 and 20 000 years ago.
>The language will be more or less from scratch, but I want to incorporate
>Nostratic and Old European loan words.
If you're a reader of Cybalist (devoted to Indo-European), you may be
familiar with Patrick Ryan, who claims to be reconstructing THE
Proto-Language (as I gather, the ancestor of Nostratic itself). I don't have
his URL but could find it. His work and theories are sufficiently
off-the-wall that, as some of his detractors claim, "Proto-Language" might
well be considered a conlang :-))))

Another controversial participant there is Torsten Pedersen (sp.?) who often
cites "Old European" material obtained (as far as I understand it) from
materials by Hans Kuhn and perhaps others. It's difficult to tell, but I
gather the time frame is prior to the IE-ization of Europe, and it's
possible "Old European" is actually a dialect of IE. There's also mention of
the "river-names" and "bird-names" languages (which may actually be Old
Eur.), the evidence for all these lies in words that fail to exhibit
expected sound changes in Germanic and/or Latin.