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Re: Old European-contact conlang

From:ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 16:12
Daniel Prohaska wrote:
>Dear all, > >I'm currently developing a conlang family of a population that migrated out >of eastern Africa, through the Middle East, Anatolia, the Balkans, along >the >Danube, then into what is southern France today across the Pyrenees, then >towards the southern tip of the Iberian peninsular. Then they develop >seafaring capabilities, settle on the Canary Islands and from then on >become >a kind of Atlantic version of a Polynesian-type spread across the isles of >the Atlantic.
Between the Canaries and the Caribbean area, I don't think the Atlantic is very well supplied with islands.... Oh well ;-) This migration goes on between 35 000 and 20 000 years ago.
>The language will be more or less from scratch, but I want to incorporate >Nostratic and Old European loan words.
If you're a reader of Cybalist (devoted to Indo-European), you may be familiar with Patrick Ryan, who claims to be reconstructing THE Proto-Language (as I gather, the ancestor of Nostratic itself). I don't have his URL but could find it. His work and theories are sufficiently off-the-wall that, as some of his detractors claim, "Proto-Language" might well be considered a conlang :-)))) Another controversial participant there is Torsten Pedersen (sp.?) who often cites "Old European" material obtained (as far as I understand it) from materials by Hans Kuhn and perhaps others. It's difficult to tell, but I gather the time frame is prior to the IE-ization of Europe, and it's possible "Old European" is actually a dialect of IE. There's also mention of the "river-names" and "bird-names" languages (which may actually be Old Eur.), the evidence for all these lies in words that fail to exhibit expected sound changes in Germanic and/or Latin.