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Re: They have given the foreigners rule over us

From:Dan Sulani <dansulani@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 9:14
On 4 May, Peter Bleackley wrote:

> I've been having difficulty translating the above phrase into
Khangaþyagon.
> Would anyone like to post translations of it into their language, with > glosses, to see if I can get inspiration from them?
"They have given the foreigners rule over us" In rtemmu, it would be: (g~ = [N]; o` = [[O]; r` = [R] ) lilunerner duhluhl ras kehs g~amkuhluhlo`gbelgr`vdwais mun pker kuhluhl. ( lilu-ner-ner duhluhl ras kehs g~amkuhluhl-o`g-belgr`v-dwais mun pker kuhluhl. ) Freely translated: everybody knew how they, in the past, caused a still-occurring foreign-domination with respect to us. lilu = everybody did or could know in the past (first) ner = the process of "being everybody" was developing, subjectively, with each person at his own rate of change (second) ner = the process of being "they" was developing, subjectively, each one of them, at his own rate of change duhluhl = the process of being 3rd person plural ras = repeating or habitual occurance kehs = the process of foreign domination is objectively perceived to be developing at a "normal" rate g~amkuhluhl-o`g-belgr`v-dwais = the process of foreign domination composed of : g~am = negative kuhluhl = the process of being 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person ie, an inclusive "we"; thus g~amkuhluhl = not us o`g = compounding particle belgr`v = to cause to happen dwais = the process of domination mun = conjunction signifying: take all the previous part of the sentence and, using it as a frame of reference, consider/observe the following process-word (in this case "kuhluhl"). pker = the following "kuhluhl" is objectively developing with each person changing at his/her own rate kuhluhl = the process of being 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person; ie, inclusive "we, us" Dan Sulani ----------------------------------------------------------------------- likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a. A word is an awesome thing.