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Re: CHAT: cross-culturationd

From:Michael Poxon <m.poxon@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 4, 2001, 12:42
Over here in the UK, pork refers to Pig meat generally, though Ham is more
or less equivalent to cold pig meat. Presumably ham (cf. jambe, gamba = leg)
must have referred to that part of the animal. My parents used to talk about
"gams" meaning "attractive pair of female legs" and I believe "hams" can
still be used to mean "thighs", especially those of a stocky variety.
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From: "David Starner" <starner@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: CHAT: cross-culturationd

> On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 09:14:33AM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > > Certainly. The English language, at least, admits no ham > > (as a food item) that is not pork. ("Ham" is also a > > synonym for "buttock", in which case it can be human.) > > Interesting. My online copy of the 1913 Webster's Dictionary has two > definitions - "The region back of the knee joint", and "the thigh of any > animal; especially the thigh of a hog cured by salted and smoking." > Apparently, though this lacks context, ham may have became specifically > pork in the last century. > > -- > David Starner -, ICQ #61271672 > Pointless website: > Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and > persuade themselves that they have a better idea. -- John Ciardi


John Cowan <cowan@...>