Lovin' the liquids (was: Re: Mutable R's)
|From:||Douglas Koller, Latin & French <latinfrench@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 15:07|
>En réponse à Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>:
>> What is Czech r-caret? I've never seen any descent description of it ...
>Alveolar fricative trill (or "voiced strident apico-alveolar trill"
>if you want
>a complete description :)) ). Used to have its own IPA character ("latin small
>letter r with long leg", Unicode position 027C), which became obsolete in 89.
>Now rendered in IPA as [r_r] (in X-SAMPA), i.e. "raised r".
>> unhelpful encyclopaedia's pronunciation guides of Czech names makes is
>> which I find slightly difficult to believe, and looking up the article
>> on Czech,
>> it says simultaneous [r] and [Z], which ought to be impossible.
>Yet it's a correct description, as it's basically how it sounds like. I don't
>know if my pronunciation is exactly correct, but to my ears it seems to be so.
>I basically pronounce it like an [r], i.e. apically trilled, but instead of
>having the body of the tongue low, I have it close to the palate, so
>is added friction to the trill. It definitely sounds like simulatenous [r] and
Stateside, the only real chance we have here to practice this sound
is with the composer's name, Dvorak, which classical music stations
pronounce, quelle surprise, /"dvorZak/. To perpetuate the urban myth,
I don't know if it's the most difficult sound in the world to
produce, but my Linguistics 101 professor oh-so-many years ago said
that even native speakers don't master the sound until their tweens.
A tad extreme, perhaps, but as it can take a while for native
English-speaking children to master /l/ ("I wuv you, Mommy."), I
could see it taking at least a little time to nail /r_r/.