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Re: Fictional auxlangs as artlangs (was Re: Poll)

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 13:24
Yes, the particular combination of features in Klingon was designed to
be unlikely to be found in an Earth natlang.  The canonical phonetic
realizations of the phonemes are a good example: it has [d`] and [s`],
but [n] and [t].  Likewise [E]and [o] (vs [e], [O]). It has [I] but
not [i], even though the latter is nearly a phonetic universal
   Grammatically, its OVS - the rarest structure on Earth.  Its
agglutinating, but a single atomic verbal prefix (or lack thereof)
indicates both subject and object.  Etc, etc.  People on this list
have certainly come up with stranger languages, but as
naturalistic-but-alien goes, its hard to argue that tlhIngan Hol isn't
something of a tour de force.



On 12/16/08, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 19:01, deinx nxtxr <deinx.nxtxr@...> wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >> Even Sindarin or Quenya could be >>> >> expanded to serve as an auxlang if UN so wished it (now there's >> an >>> >> interesting alternative history ;) >>> > >>> > I have seen such proposals at least for Quenya. >>> >>> That doesn't surprise me one bit. >> >> Me neither given that Klingon has been brought up too. The only >> problem with these are they are artistic creations so not really >> designed to be easy to learn and use. > > Heh. Wasn't Klingon even specifically designed to be "unnatural" from > the point of view of "common" Earth languages? (For example, in having > odd gaps in its phoneme grid, and an unusual word order; possibly > other things, too.) > > Cheers, > -- > Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> >
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