Re: The lost romance tongue

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, yl-ruil wrote:

>On Jan 28 Padraic Brown wrote:
>
>It was in the Brittanica entry for the romance languages. It gave genetic
>affiliations, location and that's about it. Since then I have discovered the
>numbers one to ten, however: join doi tra kwatro chenk si sapto guapto nu
>dik.
Rats. I think I have that volume of Brittanica somewhere around.

>Neither. The speakers of the proto-Carastic tongue originated (putatively)
>in what is now eastern Hungary, before the ancestors of the Romans moved
>into Italy. It seems that the *Herya (as the proto-Carastans called
>themselves - note that the asterisk indicates a reconstructed word) were
>sedentary agriculturalists, but they were forced to flee their homeland for
>an unrecorded reason. They left our world by magical means and arrived on
>the secondary world of Cædha (oddly, Cædha has the same constellations as
>Earth does, and is virtually indistinguishable from Earth in environment and
>climate).
Allright. They _started out_ in Europe! ;)

>
>Here the Aria - as the name *Herya had become - founded their chief city,
>Carasta, and founded a continent-spanning empire, centred upon the Cendos
>subcontinent. This was about two thousand, seven hundred years ago.
>
>"Aredos" itself refers only to the language, not the people. It means "the
>harmonious", similar to the meaning of Sanskrit: "the perfected".
>
>A quick example, displaying the mediopassive and the passive:
>daeros moigator, ca con illom moigamosae "Times change, and we are changed
>with them".
Neat. Is ca "we" or "and"? And is daeros from a non-IE root? In
Tallarian, it would be:

warta   tiwas-coi, mes-pa      tas-com   wartere
changes times-the  we-likewise them-with (are) change(d)

T. doesn't differentiate M-P and passive.

warta   (wartim, to spin, change, twist) 3.s.pres.M-P.indic
tiwas   (tiwas, day; age) common.pl.nom
-coi    (cos, the) C.pl.nom
mes     (mes, we plural) pl.nom
-pa     (pa, and likewise) conjunction
tas     (tas, the) C.pl.acc
com     (com, with) really takes abl., loc. or inst. but those cases
        are lacking in the plural
wartere (wartim) 1.pl.pres.M-P.indic

Padraic.

>
>Dan
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