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Re: Collaborative diachronic conlanging lite

From:Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 0:24
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Alex Fink <000024@...> wrote:


> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:59:12 -0800, Gary Shannon > <fiziwig@...> wrote:
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> > > >(NOTE: The database is still intact, but I would need > to upload the scripts > since those were not uploaded last time I changed servers.) > > > > > >Subject: Explore the Anglosic Family of languages > >From: Gary Shannon > >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List > >Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:51:43 -0800
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> Ah, I'd either forgotten about that or missed it when > it first came around. > Does indeed sound like essentially the same idea. > It'd be interesting to > at least see the database, if that's not too much work. > > > But I note you had every single modification lead to a new > language.
It is also possible to apply several modifications for each new generation. Yes, it could result in a bushy tree, however it's also possible that many of the intermediate forms of the language might be so minor as to not even warrant being given a name.
> More incidentally, I'd miss sound changes if they > weren't present in a > project like this, and knowing you I can't be sure you > even had descriptions > of phonology.
Phonology is something I don't give much thought to. After all when I watch "Doctor Who" and hear someone, as I did this afternoon, speak a sentence including the phrase "...waddy the gods..." and I can grasp from the context that the intended meaning was "...worry the guards..." then it seems to me that, in spite of how interesting it might be in its own right, the _importance_ of phonology is grossly overblown by its enthusiasts. (Just my ignorance-based personal opinion, of course.:-)
> And, well, there's no accounting for > taste, but with a name > like Anglosic I'm betting English was the root of the > tree? -- having > English as root would be a turn-off for me.
Yes, English is the root. But it shouldn't take too many incremental changes before any resemblance to English would become obscure. Take this excerpt from "Dirut Zupik" a fifth generation member of the Anglosic family: Ida chu ti durinzez zudanta tan auda ter ina zuranda azu keida. Duda, kuta kurazhiuz! huad zaida ren ena huinta chu neg her luga. Huader chu taunrun zuranu heir ena gulote awa zhi; ida chu taunrun inchu do azu zhiu awa zhi ena auda aken ada hil. Ena yad zhi chu zei tada zhi chu ti durinzez riel. I've re-uploaded the web page. It can be viewed at <http://fiziwig.com/anglosic/> where you can still add a new language if you'd like. View the entire family tree at <http://fiziwig.com/anglosic/tree.php> --gary
> Alex