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Re: Feminization of plurals?

From:René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:57
2009/2/11 Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>:

> Gender distinctions can change around quite quickly, especially > when they are mostly arbitrary, and the surface forms are not > distinctive. Witness Dutch, which is in the process of completely > losing its masculine/feminine/neuter tripartite gender system for > a common/neuter system, due to the fact that except for personal > pronouns (and their possessive forms) in the singular, masculine > and feminine forms have become identical (same article "de", same > adjectival agreement, nouns that don't have distinctive forms for the > masculine and the feminine gender). Other evidence of this phenomenon > is the use of gendered personal pronouns on a purely semantic basis > (so for instance masculine and feminine pronouns are only used with > people or animals whose gender is known. syntactic agreement doesn't > play a role anymore, so "het meisje": "the girl" will be referred to > as "zij": "she", despite the noun "meisje" being neuter. Contrast > that with Modern Greek, where the noun "t? ????ts?": "the girl" is > also neuter, as in Dutch, but governs the use of the neuter personal > pronoun "a?t?, t?"), and the rise of "die": "that" as a 3rd person > singular pronoun for non-neuter words whose actual gender is unknown > (so we don't have a full loss of syntactic gender as in English, > otherwise people would just use "het": "it").
Further loss of the Dutch gender system is going on in the relative pronouns: the originally correct form: het meisje dat ik zag the.NEUTER girl that.NEUTER I saw is being replaced by: het meisje die ik zag the.NEUTER girl that.COMMON I saw and "die" is used especially with the indefinite article: een meisje die ik zag a girl that.COMMON I saw probably influenced by the fact that the indefinite article "een" is identical for all genders. But also for inanimate nouns: een plan die we hebben gemaakt a plan that.COMMON we made can be heard more and more, even though "plan" is neuter (het plan). René

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Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>
Njenfalgar <njenfalgar@...>