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Palawa Kani

From:David Barrow <davidab@...>
Date:Monday, September 8, 2003, 2:03
Roger Mills wrote:

>Isaac Penzev wrote: > > >>A funny thing Janko mentioned: >> >> >>> J. CONLANG BASED AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINAL LANGUAGES: >>>Palawa Kani. >>> >>> >>Actually, it's not a conlang but rather a 'reconlang': a reconstruction of >> >> >a > > >>language that died. But the funnier thing is that this language is taught >> >> >and > > >>spoken by a small but distinctive and growing community! >> >>Read about it here: >> >>,5942,6728620,00.html >> >> >> >> >Iinteresting. One has to wonder how much original vocabulary and grammar >they have to work with.... or are they (gasp)...inventing words? > >The word _palawa_ struck me, ASSUMING it means 'language'-- looks and could >sound a lot like old US slang _palaver_ 'talk, discuss; confer etc.', < >Span. palabra. But it could just be coincidental, as I doubt "palaver" ever >made its way into Brit. slang/ S.Pacific pidgin English. > >
Palaver is heard in British English. from my Longman's: Palaver: 1 (informal) unnecessary trouble and anxiety over small matters (bother; fuss) 2 (informal) a lot of silly and meaningless talk. 3 (old use) a long talk about something important Some British people here may remember the 80's or 90's TV advert of a brand of tea in which Julie Walters goes "Ooo what a palaver" and the etymology is Portuguese not Spanish palaver - 1735, sailors' slang, from Port. palavra "word, speech, talk," traders' term for "negotiating with the natives" in W.Africa, metathesis of L.L. parabola "speech, discourse," from L. parabola "comparison." Meaning "idle talk" first recorded 1748. And it could quite easily have reached the South Pacific with sailors from Britain and other countries who went that way. David Barrow


Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>