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Re: Unknown Language Identifier!

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 0:12
Fascinating.  I submitted the following translation of "Gold-Sword and
Red-Crystal" in amman iar:

en nerla thilarth in irin Coirvind-Naurrion thilmirle.  en authnarron vegael
Megil-Angmir aendarth.  erornmirier Coirvind-Naurre eleth eni veren
Megil-Angmirrion erastagaen desse eldil eni feng erastagdulaen desse eleth
eni dhor.  i verenne Megil-Angmirrion eleth en aglarron alannion
ervanmirier.  alan aserunnel megilronnas Cuendir-Naur alannion eleth.
alanne eleth en mesaid enathaen raendarron na alanne eleth en roch
Ithil-Caran alannion ascummaen.  alanne eleth en Ithil-Caran ascummaen
irinle becaer-neld na fuinle becaer-neld.  alanne erthulmirel ir
Eroid-Anglainniar elieth na alanne eleth en astirhad fengion ersacier irinle
becaer.  alanne eleth eni feng govannaen authmindhiar.  authmindhiar irin
badh adhille, i feng na Megil-Angmir erorvildarth.  elle ir engdarrial
erastronnel eleth na erorvildronarth.  i fenge eleth an nirle bith
ercueniel.  Caleshan-Caran aendhas nerrion athas.  dir vornar vepanimir
athas.  eleth an nerme asavairmirar asomthille.  tordhil an nerdha erbernar
coirras.  al mardhar beresse nerrion athas.  taldil enair derrion ertirraen
aspermme.  ara emmathinar tordhil.  elas en aiscarm ueristiel.  ervathel
dalle tordhil, ara basavairmir mabeleg ergirel elas.  Megil-Angmirre eleth
en vornar alannion ergaelaen.  alanne eleth eni fengon ercuenaen.  der
palnar nerrion athas.  ner ervaethulel irinle badh asomthilla.  hrilmir
derrion istmiriel shala.  enairre nerrion eldil en derrin eremmathinaen na
der eldil en ellin astirraen asvildairron in eroid tharui.  lasaspisarth
elieth ais?  i feng eraspisel eleth na i vildair veneth ervurmel erinle
eleth.  el erasmurmarth derthilla el erraendel i thaulavanarial danda amon.
Megil-Angmirre eleth en ashervir Caleshan-Carannion ernheledhiel i
thaulavanarron.  i thaulavanar eraserunnel eleth desse eldil en tulaivan
ernathaen enairrian alannion desse eldil en Caleshan-Caran eremmathinaen.
Caleshan-Caranne eliveth nirdha der Coirvind-Naurrion thilharenle astirraen.
cuend na istmir eravairel elieth des uesieth en uthir avairel.

And got the following results:

The sample you submitted scored most highly against: Welsh with a score of
0.0784.*

The next three highest scoring language references are:

Breton (score 0.0781).
PlautDietsch (score 0.0736).
Frisian (score 0.0734).

Since amman iar was influenced by Sindarin which in turn was influenced by
Welsh, I suppose this result should not be surprising.  PlautDietsch did
however surprise me.  Given the low scores, however, amman iar appears not
to be of the same language family as Welsh or any other natlang in the
database.

David




> -----Original Message----- > From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU]On > Behalf Of Padraic Brown > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:35 PM > To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU > Subject: Unknown Language Identifier! > > > Try this out on your conlangs: > > http://epsilon3.georgetown.edu/~cball/languageid/ > > I had a go at Brithenig and got: > > "The sample you submitted scored most highly against: Welsh with a > score of 0.1028.* > > The next three highest scoring language references are: > > RomanschLadin (score 0.0643). > Latin (score 0.0635). > RomanschSursilvan (score 0.0593)." > > Kerno scored highly against French, then Catalan, Spanish and Welsh. > > Obviously, it doesn't do well with 'properly' identifying a conlang, > but Andrew _did_ make a language that is supposed to be Welshlike in > many ways; Kerno is modelled in several ways after French. > > Hm. Talarian scored most highly against Aymara. Oh well! > > Padraic. >