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Re: allnoun revisted

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Saturday, April 24, 1999, 2:44
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:12:39 EDT, "From
Http://Members.Aol.Com/Lassailly/Tunuframe.Html" <Lassailly@...> =
wrote:

>Could you develop why you keep cases in a 2-PoS structure ? It's =
interesting=20
>because until now I thought conlangers would try to reduct to 2 PoS to =
get=20
>rid of the verb+case+noun structure and switch to "ceneme"+"plereme"=20 >structure . OK, I always use an "active/passive_ceneme"+"plereme" =
structure=20
>but still I don't consider the active and passive forms of cenemes are =
cases.=20
>And the reference to other arguments, clauses and predicates that may be=
=20
>added are only "pro-PoS" I guess.=20
Eklektu phrases usually contain a main word that essentially acts as a verb. Eklektu uses cases to mark the arguments of verbs, allowing them to be rearranged or omitted. Although any word can be used as a noun or a verb, certain words when used as verbs have a defined meaning for the various cases. For example, "lig" when used as a verb means "to bind or tie" (as a noun, "an act of binding or tying"). If I want to say "I tied the boat to the dock with a rope", I need to use the case marker "u" for the subject "I", "o" for the direct objects "boat" and "dock" (multiple subjects or direct objects are not uncommon in Eklektu), and "i" for the instrumental "rope". If I wanted to, I could just as easily use "rope" as= a verb, but the dictionary doesn't specify a definition for the subject and object of "rope" as a verb. -- languages of Kolagia---> = +---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/languages.html>--- Thryomanes /"If all Printers were determin'd not to print = any (Herman Miller) / thing till they were sure it would offend no = body, moc.oi @ rellimh <-/ there would be very little printed." -Ben = Franklin