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Re: Metathesis?

From:Thomas Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 31, 2005, 22:57
>From: "mike poxon" <mike@...> >>Tom Wier wrote: >> > So what is the correct pronunciation of "Chipotle"? >> >> Well, in Spanish, I believe the syllabification goes [tSi.pot.le]. >> A reasonable anglicization of it would be [tSI.powt.ley], adjusting >> for English's lack of pure vowels. (Unless you're from Minnesota! >> They have no excuse! 8P) > >Re Chipotle: I'd always thought that the digraph "tl" in Aztecan languages >was simply how the Spanish wrote the phoneme /K/ or a similar sound, rather >than /t/ plus /l/.
Spanish is, helas, not Nahuatl. I would need to get native speaker intuitions on this, but I think that in this case Spanish would syllabify this cluster as coda plus simple onset, rather than open syllable plus complex onset. I'm pretty sure this word is a Spanish one, since Spanish tends to change the absolutive suffix of Nahuatl, -tl/-tli, into something less complex. E.g. Nahuatl _ko:yotl_ --> Spanish _coyote_. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637

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