Re: Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...)

Here is an excerpt from the the part of the Vector Tense system
that uses tensed pronouns, I call them contractions. I started
constructing them when I realized that a lot of the tenses in songs use
contractions, and that is why the lyrics in English are so short
compared to Conlang renditons. I made a large set, outlined
below. The glosses are just that, the real meaning is derived from
vector tense diagrams in each case. To use the system, a pronoun is
combined with any tense particle or modal. Modals can also be combined.
I believe Sally was the first to use the particles as verb suffixs as well.
Jack Durst's system can do that, so can Vector tense, but I haven't used
it much.
Some examples are below.

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The below grammatical objects are designed to be combined pairwise into
contractions. Thus mi + pa = mip (I'd); pa + ro= par,(was possible)
etc. Grouping is according to sense. I believe the contractions are
unambiguous, but there may be some ambiguities left to redefine.
                        Combining Forms
   I                    II                          II

PRONOUNS (11)|  TENSE PARTICLES AND LOGOS (27)|  PRIMARY MODALS (7)

Mi      Ni              Pa     past                    Ro  possible
        Gu              Te     present(ly)             Xa  should
Wo      Su              Fu     future                  Ka  can
Za      Zas             Mu *   the right now           Bi  believe
Ha      Has             Lu -*  previous now            Di  want
                        Nu +*  future (now)
                        Vo <   before (now)
                        De >   after (now)
                        Me @   during
                        Ja |   about to, has just
                        Ga =   equals
                        Li ^   linked
                        Em *@  during now
                        Am -*@ during past now
                        Um +*@ during future now
                        Ad     did/ remote past imp/perf
                        Ed     did/ did just imp/perf
                        Ud     will have imp/perf
                        Am     was during
                        Em     now during
                        Um     will be during
                        Av     was gonna
                        Ev     is gonna
                        Uv     will be gonna
                        Ju     had (pluperfect)
                        Ko     has (perfect)
                        La     will have (fut. perfect)


Combining System:

c1v1+c2v2=c1v1c2
mi  +fu  =mif
I   future = I'll

ni +fu + ro +de=
nif rod=
we'll probably want.
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New Nilenga Pronoun Set

I       mi  |     we+addressee     ni
            |     we-addressee     gu
you     vu  |     you(p)           ku
he/she  wo  |     they             su
she     za  |     she(s)           zas
he      ha  |     he(s)            has
x,y, names; use letters of NGL alphabet.
gol it1, guadu it2, guapo it3..
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Source languages of pronouns:
gu      basque we
ha      amerind he
ku      hausa you(s)
za      conlanged by GLK.
ni      bulgarian, welsh we; chinese malayanam, german,greek thou;swedish
        you
su      egyptian you; hausa they
vu      french "vous", you
wo      chinese I
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>From: Sally Caves <scaves@...>
>Subject:      Re: Tensed Pronouns (was: Tagalog ...)
>Status: R
>
>Hmmm.  That sounds an awful lot like Teonaht.  I've described this construction
>repeatedly, and concluded by the overall silence that I had come up with something
>unique.  However, T's use of this is as a prefix to the pronoun.
>
>Sally Caves
>http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teonaht.html
>================================
>
>John Cowan wrote:
>
>> Tim Smith scripsit:
>>
>> > That sounds like Hausa, which has the tense marking on the subject pronoun
>> > rather than on the verb.
>>
>> Here are some "tensed pronouns" from a rather better-known lang:
>>
>> Tense/mood              1sg     2sg+pl  3sg/m   3sg/f   3sg/n   1p      3p
>>
>> Unmarked                @j      j@      i       Si      @t      wi      De
>> Conditional             @jd     j@d     id      Sid     @t@d    wid     Dejd
>> Immediate future        Ajm@n@  jug@n@  ig@n@   Sig@n@  Ig@n@   wig@n@  Dejg@n@
>> Future                  Ajl     jul     il      Sil     It@l    wil     Dejl
>>
>> --
>> John Cowan                                      cowan@ccil.org
>>                 e'osai ko sarji la lojban.
>