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The xxxxxx, yyyyyy noun but not the yyyyyyy, xxxxxx noun?

From:Fabian <rhialto@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 14, 1999, 7:48
Seen on alt.usage.english

(concerning adjective word order)

>> >opinion - size - age - colour - nationality - material >> >> But a 'large beautiful Japanese silk scarf' breaks that >> order. Perhaps opinion and size should be swapped, and a new item >> 'virtuality' added? This would contain thinsg such as so-called, >> apparent, allegedly, potentially, etc. > >20-second introspection: "large" seems to come before opinion, while >"small" comes after it > > big beautiful world > horrid little man > > large beautiful Japanese silk scarf > beautiful little Japanese jade pendant > >Similarly, "big wide", but "narrow little". But not all are reversed: >"great big" and "tiny little".
>On a related topic (and bringing it back to food), back in 1993, I >noted that the grammar for sandwiches appears to be
>] ethnicity preparation meat cheese bread condiments deletions >] >] That is, >] >] Grilled ham and Swiss on light rye with mustard. >] Lox and cream cheese on a garlic bagel, extra onions, hold the >] tomato. >] Cajun steamed catfish and Provelone on a blueberry croissant >] with capers, no mayo. >] >] Cheese can also be a condiment, but only, it would seem, if it is >] not (locally) normal for that kind of sandwich: >] >] Roast turkey on white with cheddar. >] Roast turkey and cheddar on white. >] >] Also, side dishes either come at the end ("chopped liver on rye with >] cole slaw") or before the condiments ("burger and fries, extra >] mustard, no ketchup"). Again, this seems to be relative to local >] normalcy of the order.
Any conlangs have a theory on word order? --- Fabian Rule One: Question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, eff the ineffable, think the unthinkable, and screw the inscrutable.