The xxxxxx, yyyyyy noun but not the yyyyyyy, xxxxxx noun?
From: | Fabian <rhialto@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, April 14, 1999, 7:48 |
Seen on alt.usage.english
(concerning adjective word order)
>> >opinion - size - age - colour - nationality - material
>>
>> But a 'large beautiful Japanese silk scarf' breaks that
>> order. Perhaps opinion and size should be swapped, and a new item
>> 'virtuality' added? This would contain thinsg such as so-called,
>> apparent, allegedly, potentially, etc.
>
>20-second introspection: "large" seems to come before opinion, while
>"small" comes after it
>
> big beautiful world
> horrid little man
>
> large beautiful Japanese silk scarf
> beautiful little Japanese jade pendant
>
>Similarly, "big wide", but "narrow little". But not all are reversed:
>"great big" and "tiny little".
>On a related topic (and bringing it back to food), back in 1993, I
>noted that the grammar for sandwiches appears to be
>] ethnicity preparation meat cheese bread condiments deletions
>]
>] That is,
>]
>] Grilled ham and Swiss on light rye with mustard.
>] Lox and cream cheese on a garlic bagel, extra onions, hold the
>] tomato.
>] Cajun steamed catfish and Provelone on a blueberry croissant
>] with capers, no mayo.
>]
>] Cheese can also be a condiment, but only, it would seem, if it is
>] not (locally) normal for that kind of sandwich:
>]
>] Roast turkey on white with cheddar.
>] Roast turkey and cheddar on white.
>]
>] Also, side dishes either come at the end ("chopped liver on rye with
>] cole slaw") or before the condiments ("burger and fries, extra
>] mustard, no ketchup"). Again, this seems to be relative to local
>] normalcy of the order.
Any conlangs have a theory on word order?
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Fabian
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