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Re: "New World": Little Russia (Malaja Rus'), Texas

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Monday, August 21, 2000, 23:16
--- Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...> wrote:  [in reply to myself]

> Hmm... unfortunately, I don't know much about the Siberian dialects > of Russian... It seems that they preserve unstressed [o] and have a > different phrase intonation; I am not sure about the preservation of > word-final voiced consonants. If there were many 'Old Believers' > among > the first wave of colonists, their language must have been more > intensely influenced by Church Slavonic. The influence of Ukrainian > in modern Siberian dialects is probably due to late migration > influxes.
Well, right now my vision of the future Texas and America is basically a caricature of an abstract irregular elephant. I'm still trying to make a highly paranoid flirtation appear somewhat credible. (And using extraneously florid metaphorical railing in the process.) I had forgotten about the Old Believers. And there are also the Dukhobors. I was really thinking more along the lines of Russians that converted to Protestantism, in the form of German churches like the Lutheran and Baptist communions. It would indeed make sense that the Old Believers and other religious nonconformists would have a strong motive to make the trek east. But Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox and even some Ukrainian and Ruthenian Catholics made the trip, so it's not a religious exodus in and of itself. There were three main Russian migrations, called the Treks. The First Trek took place in the 1800s, much of which predated the Texas Revolution. Some went through Siberia and Alaska, but still others ended up in Mexico or the eastern States of the young US republic. Some of these settlers were apparently known even to Stephen F. Austin. The First Trek contained the largest groups of non-Orthodox Christians and Jews. Like the other Treks, people came not only from Russia proper, but from what is today Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia and Kazakhstan. The Germans living in Russia came with the first settlers. The Second and Third Treks took place during the 20th and early 21st centuries respectively. The history of Russian migration could be compared to the real-world history of Irish immigration, which took place in two waves (mostly Protestants from the 1700s, Catholics from the 1800s). Now this "a priori alternative history" I am working out with fear and trembling. The beginning of the story takes place in a Texan republic experiencing unbelievable prosperity and world leadership. And it begins in the ambitious rural-suburban development called Bush City, which is comfortably planted somewhere in the Hill Country north of San Antonio, west of Austin.
> That's nice... I like the old orthography :)
I wouldn't have it any other way. If I were a Russian, I'd want to go back the old orthography. Well maybe except for all the final hard-signs.
> For what sounds, I wonder?
The umlauted vowels result from German and French influence, as back vowels are fronted in a form of umlaut paralleling both languages. I also separate the two e's, the one that makes soft consonants and the one that makes hard ones. (I reckon the former is accomplished with the letter Yat... ¿verdad?)
> Rather, I'd consider introducing some new letters for the sounds that > could appear in loanwords ([d_Z', D, T, h, w, N]) or simply fill in > the > gaps in the system ([G], [d_z] - both present in New Greek, > though...).
I'm thinking reintroduced OCS characters. (But nothing like reintroducing Greek Ksi, Psi or Omega.) I could go so far as to reassign the phonetic value [T] to Fita...
> Note also that _Malaya Rus'_ (or _Maloróssiya_) is the historical > name > of Ukraine (formerly, in the sense 'Russia proper' :-]). _Malen'kaya > Rossiya_ is a bit cumbersome and doesn't sound like a real placename.
Oh okay, thanks. I thought the moniker "Little Russia" for Ukraine was today an anachronism at best and pejorative at worst.
> In today's Russian, there is a jocose way to refer to American > states, > like _Tekháschina_, _Oklakhómshchina_ - modeled on the traditional > names > of some Russian oblasts like _Bryánshchina_ (Bryansk Region) or > _Smolénshchina_ (Smolensk Region).
And Bush City, called Bushchina? (By the way, Bush City is named after a certain president and his son the heir apparent.) DeeDubYa. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/