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Re: USAGE: Circumfixes

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Thursday, May 20, 2004, 18:27
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> And even there it gives an archaic feeling. "Ne" is also used alone in > *affirmative* completive subclauses after a verb of fear: > Je crains qu'il ne vienne: I fear he will come. > To make it negative, you *have to* write: > Je crains qu'il ne vienne pas: I fear he will not come. > This too is only used in the literary language. In spoken language it > sounds quaint.
How'd *that* happen? :-)
> If you wonder how we can use "personne" in both a negative (nobody) and > affirmative (person) meaning, the two meanings never overlap. "Personne" in > a negative meaning is always without an article and at the position the > negative word must take (after the conjugated verb). "Personne" in an > affirmative meaning is a noun, and as such is required to be preceded with > an article (nouns can't appear without article in French, even mass nouns).
Interesting distinction! :-)
> Exactly. When you happen for some reason to use the second part of the > negation in front of the first, you needn't add another one afterwards. > Another example: > > Jamais je n'ai entendu pareille sottise ! : Never have I heard such nonsense!
Can you drop the _ne_ there, saying "Jamais j'ai entendu pareille sottise"? Or is that ungrammatical?
> Je ne sais... ;)))) It's *very* archaic literary style, but it's possible.
:-) And we English-speakers use French phrases like "Je ne sais quoi" :-)

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Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>