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Re: USAGE: Circumfixes

From:Mark P. Line <mark@...>
Date:Sunday, May 9, 2004, 19:16
Joe said:
> A > google for "Ich habe es abschrieben" turns up nothing, but "Ich habe es > abgeschrieben" turns up 25. Not conclusive, but I reckon it's true.
Yep, the form is "abgeschrieben".
> The only affixes that supress the 'ge-' are 'be-' and 'ver-'(Ich habe > ihn besucht, Ich habe es verkauft)
It's not true that those are the only ones. Verbs with inseparable prefixes don't have 'ge-' in their past participle forms; verbs with separable prefixes (or no prefix) have the 'ge-'. (I think even all the suppletive forms like 'gewesen' have the 'ge-', at least I can't think of a counterexample right off-hand.) be+schneiden - be+schnitten ver+schneiden - ver+schnitten ent+schneiden - ent+schnitten emp+finden - emp+funden zer+schneiden - zer+schnitten er+ringen - er+rungen ge+winnen - ge+wonnen [not the past-participle 'ge+', synchronically] unter+nehmen - unter+nommen ueber+holen - ueber+holt Note that inseparable prefixes are unstressed, and separable prefixes are stressed, and that 'unter+' and 'ueber+' also occur as separable prefixes. There's also a prefix 'miss+' that seems to be in transition -- some dialects and colloquial standard varieties treat it as separable, and it takes stress when it comes before an inseparable prefix (miss+ver+stehen - miss+ver+standen). -- Mark

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