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Re: USAGE: Circumfixes

From:Tamas Racsko <tracsko@...>
Date:Sunday, May 9, 2004, 18:08
On 9 May 2004 Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@N...> wrote:

> --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Tamas Racsko <tracsko@F...> > > I agree with your analysis that German (and Dutch, Yiddish, etc) > > weak past participles is formed by circumfix. > > Strong past participles as well, though the latter also use ablaut.
I thought the problem over again, maybe I was wrong when I agreed. I've forget that prefixed verbs have no ge- in past participle, e.g. schreib.en 'to write' > ge.schrieb.en 'written' vs. ab.schreib.en 'write down, copy' > ab.schrieb.en. There are two possible analises: 1. Past participle ab.schrieb.en has a background form ab.[ge].schrieb.en (or: [ge].ab.schrieb.en) but [ge] is deleted because a rule prohibits the existence of two succeeding verbal prefixes. 2. Past participle ge.schrieb.en has a background form 0.geschrib.en [0 = zero morpheme] but the zero prefix has a bodily variant ge- in past particple. (The reason could be that past particple describes, therefore we must explicitely use the semantically dummy perfective prefix ge-.) In case 1, the affix of past participle is circumfix, however, in case 2 isn't. According to the latter analisis ge- makes a perfective verb before the past participle suffix is added. It seems to me that case 2 is better that case 1.
> We can add the Classical Greek perfect e- - [k/h]-a for roots > starting in consonants.
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> Does the Greek-Armenian-Indo-Iranian past indicative augment *e- > also count as part of a cicumfix with the various past endings?
I considered Greek augmentation/reduplication before my previous posting but I refused in the end. I think that in the ending -K-a constituent K is a marker of the active mood[*], since it's missing (=replaced by a zero morpheme) in medio-passive mood, and -a is a marker of present tense, since it's replaced by -ei in preterite, cf. pe.paideu.k.a 'I have educated (active present)' ~ e.pe.paideu.k.ei.n 'I had educated (active past)' ~ pe.paideu.0.mai 'I have been educated (med-pass. present)'. Thus it's not a circumfix because its elements are connected to different functions: reduplication for the perfect, K for the mood and -a for the tense. [*] This K is missing after stems ending in consonant, but in these cases the aorist marker S is also missing. Therefore they have a bodily and a zero variant according to variuos phonotactis situations.

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