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Re: Chemehuevi orthography (was: Re: non-English WEB sites)

From:Peter Clark <peter-clark@...>
Date:Friday, April 25, 2003, 21:40
On Friday 25 April 2003 01:59 pm, Dirk Elzinga wrote:

> So the orthographic problem is whether to represent these final vowels > or not. That is, should /aipatsi/ be written <aipats> or <aipatsi>? I > can see good reasons for doing it either way; I can also see drawbacks. > I'm hoping that the Chemehuevis themselves will settle on a solution > which makes sense to them. Personally, I lean towards not including > final vowels, but I'm willing to let them decide.
Two questions: first, are the final vowels ever long? I'm just curious to see what the distribution of long vowels are. Second, is /1/ ever a final vowel? If /1/ is never a final vowel, then you could settle on a midway compromise by marking the final vowel, but with some diacritic[1]. Hence something like aipatsî and naro'ô. (I chose the circumflex because it is more visible over an "i" than an acute or grave accent[2].) Although I suppose that a solution for ü could be made if it ever occurs finally...maybe just use an accented character like ú or ù. Too bad that /1/ isn't represented by |y|; then you could just use ä ï ö ü ÿ to indicated final vowels. (Just sticking with latin-1 encoding here.) You could also use this system to indicate vowels that shorten: |tÿmpï| "money, rock" (I'm using |y| for /1/ just to be clear, that's all) |tyympä| "mouth" I don't know if that's too much or not. It would help language learners know when a vowel is shortened, but on the other hand it would probably not be much more of an advantage for someone with native knowledge of when a vowel is shortened. Would it cause confusion to see: |tÿmpï| "money, rock" |tympin "my money, my rock" Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to post it. :Peter [1] Full disclaimer: Enamyn has silent final vowels that pop up and bite you later, so I mark them with an accent. Works for me! :) [2] I should probably use the circumflex, too, since it's clearer than "í", but I just can't bring myself to do it. At least not yet. -- Oh what a tangled web they weave who try a new word to conceive!


Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>