Re: Chemehuevi orthography (was: Re: non-English WEB sites)
|From:||Peter Clark <peter-clark@...>|
|Date:||Friday, April 25, 2003, 21:40|
On Friday 25 April 2003 01:59 pm, Dirk Elzinga wrote:
> So the orthographic problem is whether to represent these final vowels
> or not. That is, should /aipatsi/ be written <aipats> or <aipatsi>? I
> can see good reasons for doing it either way; I can also see drawbacks.
> I'm hoping that the Chemehuevis themselves will settle on a solution
> which makes sense to them. Personally, I lean towards not including
> final vowels, but I'm willing to let them decide. Two questions: first, are the final vowels ever long? I'm just curious to see
what the distribution of long vowels are. Second, is /1/ ever a final vowel?
If /1/ is never a final vowel, then you could settle on a midway compromise
by marking the final vowel, but with some diacritic. Hence something like
aipatsî and naro'ô. (I chose the circumflex because it is more visible over
an "i" than an acute or grave accent.) Although I suppose that a solution
for ü could be made if it ever occurs finally...maybe just use an accented
character like ú or ù. Too bad that /1/ isn't represented by |y|; then you
could just use ä ï ö ü ÿ to indicated final vowels. (Just sticking with
latin-1 encoding here.)
You could also use this system to indicate vowels that shorten:
|tÿmpï| "money, rock" (I'm using |y| for /1/ just to be clear, that's all)
I don't know if that's too much or not. It would help language learners know
when a vowel is shortened, but on the other hand it would probably not be
much more of an advantage for someone with native knowledge of when a vowel
is shortened. Would it cause confusion to see:
|tÿmpï| "money, rock"
|tympin "my money, my rock"
Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to post it.
 Full disclaimer: Enamyn has silent final vowels that pop up and bite you
later, so I mark them with an accent. Works for me! :)
 I should probably use the circumflex, too, since it's clearer than "í",
but I just can't bring myself to do it. At least not yet.
Oh what a tangled web they weave who try a new word to conceive!