Re: Whispered voicing ( was: Re: /p/ versus devoiced b?)

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Andrew Chaney wrote:

> On Monday, January 29, 2001, at 09:50 AM, John Cowan wrote:
>
> >
> > Whispered voiceless sounds are just like unwhispered ones.  Voiced
> > sounds use a special "whispered voicing" which isn't ordinarily
> > used in most languages.
> >
>
> Whispered voicing?  Voicing involves the vibration of the vocal cords, right?
> And whispering by definition involves no vibration of the vocal cords.
> What then, is "whispered voicing"? ? ?
Creaky voice.

The vocal cords vibrate, but are held very tense to prevent full voicing.
If you hold them even more tensely, you have whispered voicing.

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