Re: Whispered voicing ( was: Re: /p/ versus devoiced b?)

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 10:34:47AM -0600, Patrick Dunn wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Andrew Chaney wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 29, 2001, at 09:50 AM, John Cowan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Whispered voiceless sounds are just like unwhispered ones.  Voiced
> > > sounds use a special "whispered voicing" which isn't ordinarily
> > > used in most languages.
> > >
> >
> > Whispered voicing?  Voicing involves the vibration of the vocal cords, right?
> > And whispering by definition involves no vibration of the vocal cords.
> > What then, is "whispered voicing"? ? ?
>
> Creaky voice.
>
> The vocal cords vibrate, but are held very tense to prevent full voicing.
> If you hold them even more tensely, you have whispered voicing.
Does this relate in any way to Indic-style voiced aspirates? If not, could
someone describe those for me? :)

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Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo