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Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Monday, October 4, 2004, 9:32
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@A...> wrote:
> I've already posted this to the auxlang list, but thought I'd post
it here
> as well because of the broader audience.
Just something I noticed on a quick peek into the pronunciation section: Your two rants at the bottom of the chart are both wrong. Standard German short ä is /E/ and indistinguishable from short e in pronunciation, while long ä is realized as either /E:/ or (more commonly nowadays) /e:/. It does not sound like /{/; in fact, it is a classic feature of German accent in English to pronounce [E] instead of [{], so e.g. "have" ends up as "heff". As for the different rhotics, each of them has its own IPA symbol. [r] is the alveolar trill (Spanish rr), [4] the alveolar tap (Spanish r), [R] the uvular trill (Edith Piaf), [R\] the voiced uvular fricative (German r), etc. Rhotics are often written /r/ in phonemic (not phonetic) notation, though, so maybe your confusion comes from there. Check out the following page for a summary of IPA symbols for rhotics: http://www.phonetik.uni-muenchen.de/Lehre/Skripten/TRANS1/TRANS1Rhotics.html And in case you're not familiar with the ASCII version of IPA we're using on this list, it's X-SAMPA: http://www.diku.dk/hjemmesider/studerende/thorinn/xsamchart.gif -- Christian Thalmann