Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"
From: | Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> |
Date: | Monday, October 4, 2004, 9:32 |
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@A...> wrote:
> I've already posted this to the auxlang list, but thought I'd post
it here
> as well because of the broader audience.
Just something I noticed on a quick peek into the
pronunciation section: Your two rants at the bottom of
the chart are both wrong. Standard German short ä is /E/
and indistinguishable from short e in pronunciation,
while long ä is realized as either /E:/ or (more commonly
nowadays) /e:/. It does not sound like /{/; in fact, it
is a classic feature of German accent in English to
pronounce [E] instead of [{], so e.g. "have" ends up as
"heff".
As for the different rhotics, each of them has its own
IPA symbol. [r] is the alveolar trill (Spanish rr), [4]
the alveolar tap (Spanish r), [R] the uvular trill (Edith
Piaf), [R\] the voiced uvular fricative (German r), etc.
Rhotics are often written /r/ in phonemic (not phonetic)
notation, though, so maybe your confusion comes from there.
Check out the following page for a summary of IPA symbols
for rhotics:
http://www.phonetik.uni-muenchen.de/Lehre/Skripten/TRANS1/TRANS1Rhotics.html
And in case you're not familiar with the ASCII version of
IPA we're using on this list, it's X-SAMPA:
http://www.diku.dk/hjemmesider/studerende/thorinn/xsamchart.gif
-- Christian Thalmann