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Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"

From:J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
Date:Saturday, October 9, 2004, 16:28
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:28:31 -0400, Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...> wrote:

>Actually, it's the *Maß* aller Dinge. Even with the insane spelling reform, >you still *must* put a "ß" after a long vowel! Otherwise, "Maße" >(measurements) and "Masse" (mass) would become indistinguishable. >However, as I've seen most people get that wrong (among other things), so >if anything, the spelling reform makes spelling just more difficult rather >than the opposite.
He doesn't have to use the |ß|, irrespective of old or new spelling, since he's one of the four million living proofs that you can perfectly write and read German without any |ß|: He's Swiss. The rules for the usage of the |ß|, BTW, have been simplified in the spelling reform.
>On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:11:27 +0200, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote: >>(This all describes my own pronunciation. I used a different word, >>namely |hüpfen| to check all this, since my pronunciation of initial >>/pf/ would be artificial for me and not native since my dialect >>(def. a) does not have initial /pf/, but only medial.) > >Actually, "hüpfen" is a bad example, as here "p" and "f" fall into two >different syllables (hüp-fen). A better example would be "Kopf" (head).
In the most common varieties of standard German, this doesn't make any difference. Seems to be another of the many peculiarities of your variety of North-Rhine Westphalia. gry@s: j. 'mach' wust

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