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Bongo-bongo sentences en inglés

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 22:36
Thanks to Juan A. Alonso for his corrections and pertinent comments. I'm afraid I
went through the sentences too quickly, overlooking little things like the
meaning of "terminar", the -a on "enamorada", the correct meaning of "ahí"

>Just a few corrections/comments to some of the translations below
>21 .- I would say "The girl right there is Fred's fiancée", but the sentence
is somehow awkward in Spanish (at least for European Spanish). I'd rather say "Esa chica [de ahí] es la prometida de Fred",..... Even in my incorrect version, I felt that "this girl right here..." would sound better.
>24.- There is a graphic accent missing in the Spanish sentence...
Omitting accents and the inverse !/? seems to be common in email Spanish, probably because one can never be sure if the characters will show up properly on other people's browsers.
>27.- "ligón" is slang and more or less means "a man who always tries to
attract the attention of -typically- women in order to have short relations with them   ". Aha. I suspected as much. English has "womanizer" or "skirt-chaser" and others less polite. Interesting that we have "slut" for a promiscuous woman, but no comparable term for the male equivalent. (The gay world makes do with "slut")
>It is again a quite awkward sentence (in fact two sentences!)
Just one of my objections to this batch of sentences.
>About Roger's comment on sentence 30, I do not find it syntactically awkward
in Spanish (apart from the meaning not being very brilliant, indeed). Another of my objections.........
>Incidentally, wouldn't it be a good idea to systematize a little bit the
sentences to be included in the corpus? I know that the criteria to use for that may not be easy to find, but I think that a "poutpourrie" of sentences would not be of much use for the conlang community. I would suggest to use different configurations of thematic relations for the sentences [i.e. AGENT + VERB, PATIENT + VERB, EXPERIMENTER + VERB, AGENT + VERB + PATIENT, etc.]. The reason is that thematic relations are kept across languages, even though the may be realized through different syntactic structures. Objection No. 3. You are absolutely right!!