Lingua Frakas

Maybe we can make up a meaning for "inclusive and exclusive 3rd person."

inclusive 1st includes the addressee
exclusive 1st excludes the addressee

inclusive 3rd could be 3rd person reference to a group that includes the
addressee
exclusive 3rd could be 3rd person reference to any other group

e.g.     people who forget to vote (including you) should reconsider  [use
inclusive 3rd]
e.g.    people who forget to vote (not including you) should reconsider [use
exclusive 3rd]

This distinction could save a lot of nervous back-pedalling in conversations
at parties.

e.g.   But of course I wasn't talking about YOU.    Present company
excepted.   That's not to say that what I'm saying applies to you.

vs.

And I mean you too!

Jim




----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Garcia" <Barry_Garcia@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Lingua Frakas...TMA (tenses,mood & aspects)


> CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
> >Jonathan Chang wrote:
> >>     True. Not to mention the inclusive & exclusive plural 3rd person
> >pronouns
> >> found in several pidgins of that region!!!
> >
> >Hunh?  How can third person have "inclusive" and "exclusive"?
>
> Hmm...perhaps he means inclusive and exclusive we? Much like Tagalog (and
> Saalangal) have? :)