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Re: conlangs as art (was: Re: Wikipedia:Verifiability - Mailing lists as sources

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 8:31
Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:
> Hallo! > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:50:01 +0000, And Rosta wrote: > >> I can say, truthfully & without hyperbole, that I have been saying on this >> list longer than anyone that conlangs can be art. Nevertheless I am also >> convinced that as an artistic medium conlanging does not lend itself to the >> creation of great art that, say, exalts us, or moves us deeply, or gives us >> profound insights into life. > > Why not? Where is the problem? Why cannot be that a conlang moves > someone deeply?
Why not indeed? I remember very many moons ago (about 50 years ago, in fact), being deeply moved when I read Galadriel's song "Ai! laurië lantar lassi surinen!..." in 'Farewell to Lórien'. It had the wow-factor! I found it stunningly beautiful and moving. I know beauty is only in the eye of the beholder (or ear of the listener) - but I was deeply moved by the words - and, indeed, still am.
> A conlang can express the thoughts and feelings of > its author as much as, for instance, a piece of music can do. That, > at least, is my opinion; for instance, I find Quenya and Sindarin > very expressive of Tolkien's mindset.
Yes, they probably do. But I must confess, I have never been particularly moved by Sindarin - but Quenya, wow!! --------------------------- David J. Peterson wrote: [snip] > Aside from that, I'm tired of this discussion. It's all about definitions, > and if two people don't share a definition, and are not willing to > agree on a common definition, then it amounts to nothing more > than name-calling. I'm inclined to agree - and it's pushing up the number of mails from the list which is OK if one has the leisure to read them all properly - but today, I was just skimming through most. I know, for example, not everyone shares my view of Quenya. Nor do I expect them to. We have moved in very subjective areas in this thread and I feel David's assessment is true. -- Ray ================================== ================================== Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora. [William of Ockham]


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