Re: OT: German reputation

To all the others: Sorry for the OT-posting; it's already late and I'm tired.


On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:05:07 -0500, Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:11:55 -0500, J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
>wrote:
>
>>First: Learn the proper pronunciation of standard German (it's what the
>>orthography is based on).
>
>You have a much bigger need for this. Especially, learn the difference
>between "ä" and "e".
This might be a very surprising lecture for you (it's the
Duden-Aussprachewörterbuch):
http://www.duden.de/index2.html?produkte/dudenreihe/duden06.html


>>Second: Learn the ß-rules.
>
>I know the ß rules - the rules that actually make sense. I won't touch the
>screwed-up rules of the reform.
Two rules before: one that took word boundaries into account, another one
that took pronunciation into account. Now, the former has been dismissed,
and only the latter is still applied. This is not only easier (one rule
instead of two), but it also has the advantage that the reader always knows
the quantity-quality of the vowel before the ß/ss (unless his pronunciation
deviates from the standard, see above).


>>Third: Read the explanatory posts.
>
>I have read all posts in this thread. Have you?
If you really had, then you wouldn't have asserted the only pronunciation to
be /tSYs/.

You might have missed a similar post two months ago (I don't blame you for
this):
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0410B&L=conlang&P=11903


kru@s:
j. 'mach' wust