Re: OT: German reputation

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:08:45 +0100, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Is it originally derived from 'ciao'?
AFAIK 'ciao' is from an Italian dialect (Venetian?) form of 'sciavo', slave.

> Indeed, I'd say that *most* people say 'tschüß' or 'tschö' (which I
> don't like).  I had the feeling that 'tschö' is a recent invention.
IME it's mostly restricted to the Rhineland.


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:15:40 -0500, J. 'Mach' Wust
<j_mach_wust@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:43:43 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
>
> >It should be spelt _tschüss_ in the new orthography, I suppose.
>
> It's one of the cases that clearly show the advantage of the new ß-rules: In
> the old spelling, the pronunciation could be either /tSYs/ or /tSy:s/, in
> the new spelling |tschüss| the only pronunciation unambiguously is /tSYs/.
*nods* And since I say /tSy:s/, I'd write it |tschüß| if I had to use
one of the two alternatives. Though for me, it's nearly invariably
|tschüs| -- which, incidentally, is the only spelling my Duden. (It
marks the "ü" with a macron below, indicating pronunciation as [y:],
but includes a parenthetical note that the pronunciation with [Y] also
exists.)

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>