Re: OT: German reputation

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:33:41 +0100, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:03:47 -0500, Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:02:27 +0100, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>> >
>> >"J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> writes:
>> >>...
>> >> It's one of the cases that clearly show the advantage of the new
ß-rules: In
>> >> the old spelling, the pronunciation could be either /tSYs/ or /tSy:s/, in
>> >> the new spelling |tschüss| the only pronunciation unambiguously is /tSYs/.
>>
>> It clearly is NO advantage, also before the only possible pronunciation was
>> /tSYs/.
>
>If I understand you correctly, you are saying that "a word spelled
>|tschüß| can only be pronounced /tSYs/ since |üß| word-finally always
>encodes /Ys/ and never /y:s/"... which doesn't work in my accent since
>|süß|, for example, is /zy:s/ and never /zYs/.
Following the Standard High German pronunciation (which I was referring to),
it can only be /Ys/, but of course dialects differ from the standard
pronunciation (otherwise they wouldn't be dialects).
So any dialect has some pronunciations which differ from the standard
pronunciation, and which actually make out the dialect.

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