Re: Memories

H.S.Teoh wrote:


> I learned that memory-related terms in Ebisédian are quite complicated.
These are very nice (i.e. good, not nice in the legalistic sense)
distinctions, which Kash also has, up to a point...

>
> First of all, there's memory itself, which is of (at least) two distinct
> kinds:
> 1) _suPi'_ [su"p_hi] - memory in general, usually short-term memory or
>    memory of trivia.
> 2) _Pee'i_ ["p_h&:?i] - hindsight, memorial, experiential memory:
>    referring to the recollection of past events and their instructive
>    value, or the memory of the things that have happened so far that
>    brought one to the current point. This implies an accomplishment of
>    some sort; a musing on past events.
Kash _nimbur_ takes its objects in different cases for this distinction:
1. (human)dative ~(non-human/inanim.) accusative for the short-term--
yanimbur etengini 'he remembered (to bring) his book'
aka hanimbur ereke 'did you remember [to include/invite] Erek?
maturo, ta te manimbur 'sorry, I don't remember you'
2. genitive for long-term, permanently imprinted stuff:
manimbur amayimi 'I remember my father' ~manimbur ini 'I remember him'
yanimbur acivarini 'he remembered the lesson'
nimbukra arani yu! 'remember that name!'
ena, nanimbur hati 'Oh, I remember _you_' (we were close long ago, or,
you're well-known/notorious)

Causative rundimbur 'remind s.o. of s.t.' at present only takes dat/acc
objects, but I think that might need revising for e.g. 'you remind me of my
father' where 'father' probably ought to be in the genitive. (your sa'Pi)

Redup. nimbu-nimbur liri... 'reminisce about...'
Accid: cakanimbur 'overcome by memories'-- could also be used to describe
poor Funes in Borges' "Funes el memorioso", who remembered _everything_

_cuta_ 'forget' has the same distinction, using resp. dat/acc or genitive.
raç, macuta poreñi 'damn, I forgot the wine' (poren/acc +ni)
talunda ta micuta lerowi yu 'we will never forget that day'
ne makota re anjayi yacuta iyeni 'I told him he ought to forget (all about)
her' (iyeni-- spec. female, genitive

I never really got into your other aspects of memory, but now
will..............

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