Re: Californian vowels [was Re: Liking German]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:46:53 -0400, John Cowan <cowan@...>
wrote:

>Robert Hailman scripsit:
>
>> I say [b@kVz], so it still rhymes for me. I say it as [bikVz] when I
>> sing that song, though, because... well, it's a valid pronounciation for
>> me, just not one I use very often.
>
>Actually, so do I, and so does Garland.
>
>> I'm from Canada, and "spider" and "inside her" rhyme for me. I can't
>> think of ever hearing them not rhyme. [spaid@'] and [insaid h@'], ([@']
>> is the rhotic schwa, right?]) or something like that.
>
>Well, most of your compatriots say [sp@idR] and [insaidR].  So do people
>from Pennsylvania: the so-called Canadian Raising.
Wouldn't [sp@idR] be "spiter", not "spider"? I thought Canadian Raising
applied only before an originally voiceless consonant.

Jeff

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