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Re: Another Orthography Question

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Thursday, November 19, 1998, 15:05
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> > nasalised vowels > I think using a tilda ~ before or after the vowel is the best way to > do it (just choose a place and keep it).
I've never seen it *before* the vowels, not that I can think of, at least. The standard practice is after, so /i~/ = nasalized /i/
> On my old computer, the 0 (zero) was just like that. But I think it > disappeared. If you make an HTML file, I think such a character already > exists (I saw it but don't use it).
In html it's "&oslash;". In ASCII IPA it varies from system to system, in SAMPA, it's [2]. You can find 5 different systems at http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/ascii-ipa.html
> It's not the schwa? So what is it?
I think he's referring to the backward e, a centralized version of /E/. It's represented in SAMPA by [@\]
> >voiced interdental fricative
[D]
> >voiceless " "
[T]
> >voiced velar fricative
[G]
> >voiceless palatal stop (IPA [c])
[c]
> >voiced palatal stop (IPA barred undotted j)
SAMPA doesn't have a symbol for that, but two of them use [J]
> >IPA inverted w
In SAMPA, [W]
> >glottal stop
[?]
> >ejective k > >ejective t > >ejective p > > What I see is generally k', t' and p'. But the apostroph has so many > uses that it can be the worst solution.
Not when you're using ASCII IPA. In the SAMPA system, apostrophe indicates ejective.
> A question related to clicks: what are they? (I mean, how are they > pronounced? Nobody has ever been able to explain me exactly what clicks were).
Okay, close off the back of your mouth, as tho making a /k/, and, for a bilabial click, close your lips as for a /p/, then lower the tongue-body, creating a partial vacuum in the mouth, and open the mouth, the in-flow of air is a click sound. The dental click is made by having the tongue in the dental position, and lowering the tongue-body, then releasing the front of the tongue. -- "It has occured to me more than once that holy boredom is good and sufficient reason for the invention of free will." - "Lord Leto II" (Dune Chronicles, by Frank Herbert) http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files/ ICQ #: 18656696 AOL screen-name: NikTailor