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Re: /k/ in i.t.a.

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, November 12, 2004, 13:57
On Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 07:58 , Ray Brown wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 09:40 , Jean-François Colson wrote: > [snip] > >>> Of course. And which spelling is used when /k/ is spelt |qu|? >> >> I have forgotten - probably qu-ligature. > > That was a guess based on the fact that this was supposed to an "initial > teaching alphabet" to aid in the transition to standard orthography. But > on further investigation I discover that ITA did _not_ include the letters > |q| and |x|. This seems to me to be at odds with the aim of an initial > teaching alphabet. > > Whether |qu| was respelled as |kw| or as |cw| I am not certain, but I > think it was the latter.
I did some checking while the Conlang list was locked - I was wrong. ITA does not use the Old English |cw|; it re-spells modern English |qu| as |kw| . I cannot see how |kw| is a transition to the standard |qu|. It looks to me like a survival from an early 'yet another spelling reform' scheme. As I wrote:
> Its designer was James Pitman (1901 - 1985) who was a champion of English > spelling reform. I get the impression that he saw ITA as a "Trojan horse" > which would introduce spelling reform after the failure of his earlier > attempts to get the Brits to adopt reform.
I should perhaps have added that James Pitman was the grandson of Isaac Pitman, the inventor of Pitman shorthand which is (I think still*) the most common form of shorthand in the UK (I personally prefer Gregg) and is based on phonemic spelling. * In recent years a system known as T-line has become very popular among writers of shorthand in the UK. I also discovered yesterday that the earliest known attempt at English spelling reform was by a monk called Ormm (or Ormmin) in about 1200 CE. But the vast majority of reform proposals seem to belong to the past three centuries. I wonder how many there are. More than 1000? Ray =============================================== =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]


Garth Wallace <gwalla@...>