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Re: Proto-Uralic?

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Thursday, June 26, 2003, 14:46
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:58:10 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg=20Rhiemeier?=
<joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:

>Hallo friends, > >Does anyone know whether the currently accepted reconstruction of Proto-
Uralic
>(or what comes closest to such a thing) is available on the Web somewhere? > >Thanks in advance, > >Jörg.
Unfortunately, there are relatively few resources for Proto-Uralic on the Web, and what is on there is relatively inconsistent. I am actually in the process of compiling information for my own reconstruction of Proto- Uralic. However, I can list some commonly accepted features of PU: 1. It had a case system consisting of nominative -0, accusative -m, genitive -n (possibly palatalized n), ablative -tA, and locative -nA. There may also have been some kind of lative case in -k(V). 2. Two formants, -s (meaning 'inside/into') and -l (meaning 'outside/out of') were often used to produce other cases in later Uralic languages. 3. There were two numbers, singular and plural, the former being unmarked and the latter having a nominative plural in -t and an oblique plural in -j (A), to which case endings were added (?). (There was a dual later on, but I think this was a late formation in Proto-Uralic; it was marked by -k, and it's likely the same formant as the base for 'two'.) 4. The verb did not distinguish tense as such, but did distinguish aspect (imperfect vs. perfect). Imperfect was unmarked; perfect was marked by the suffix -j(A) (this is the same suffix as the nominal oblique plural, more on this later). The personal endings for the verb were 1sg -m, 2sg -t, 3sg - or -sA, 1pl -mek, 2pl -tek, 3pl -s(A)t (this was often reanalyzed in later languages). However, I disagree with the 1pl and 2pl endings as they are commonly reconstructed; I would prefer to reconstruct -mij and -tij, respectively. The verb also had a variety of participles; the easiest to reconstruct is -pA for present active participle. There was also some kind of aorist (?) marker in -si or -s', and an imperative marker in -kA. This is only a brief summary of Proto-Uralic, and I hope to have a more descriptive grammar soon. Do you have your own ideas regarding PU? I would be interested in hearing them. - Rob