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Re: CHAT: I saw it! I saw it! I saw it!

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Monday, June 7, 1999, 20:49
I wrote:

> > In Chip Delaney's _Nova_, it is asserted that people from the > > Pleiades Cluster (one of three areas of human settlement) speak > > in SOV fashion. Well and good, until the narrator throws away > > the information that this is true in *all* languages! What > > about the ones that are already SOV?
Based on the private and public responses, understanding this paragraph people are not. It has nothing to do with Yoda except by implication; _Nova_ is a novel by Samuel R. ("Chip") Delaney which uses an SOV (subject-object-verb) condialect. My point was that it's plausible, if stretching the envelope a bit, for Delaney to postulate that people from certain planets speak an SOV dialect of the common-language-rendered-as-English, and that this is odd enough that his dialogue needs to express it directly. But then the book's narrator happens to mention in an off-hand manner that this feature is true in the local dialect of *all* languages. Preposterous! Every local language became dialectalized in exactly the same way, and affecting a basic typological feature? So we are left with the idea that a *region of space* causes its inhabitants to render their native language, whatever it may be, in SOV order! Nothing is said about languages that are already SOV.... -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org You tollerday donsk? N. You tolkatiff scowegian? Nn. You spigotty anglease? Nnn. You phonio saxo? Nnnn. Clear all so! 'Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)