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Re: English syllable structure (was, for some reason: Re: Llirine: How to creat a language)

From:Padraic Brown <agricola@...>
Date:Sunday, December 9, 2001, 18:49
Am 09.12.01, Andreas Johansson yscrifef:

> >And there is > >another different, the English school didn't want > >student learn the chemical element's table in heard. > >Why, because it's too long,
I agree. It's too long. I think you should start a boycott against IUPAC for adding too doggone many elements to the chart. I mean, who the hell actually uses Meitnerium? NO ONE!
> >but the Chinese school > >want student learn it in heart, for it's not hard job > >for them.
It's a very easy job, regardless of language. It took very little time; but a more important job was learing how the Chart works and why; what's important and why and where to find it quickly.
> >We know once you know the table, you know > >most properties of all elements. While a English > >student need to looking for book to find the position > >of that element. Do you want this happen forever?
Well, that's a difference in educational philosophies. It's all well and good that Chinese students can spew chemical trivia from the Chart. American students know how to use HCP and other reference works. Look up the atomic wt. of hydrogen enough times and you'll soon become familliar with 1.00794 - it's been about five years since I have cracked open a chem book seriously - and I can recall a few of the other important ones. We learn what's important that way. I'm _glad_ the A.W.s of trivial elements like Francium or Cesium weren't drilled into my head. That's what the frickin chart is _for_ - so you don't _have_ to keep all that trivia in your head.
> While this seems to be question of education style and ideology rather than > of anything language-related*, I'd like to point out that I know several > people who now the table of elements by heart (in Swedish, but from the > Mandarin point of view Swedish is essentially English). Also, it's very > questionable whether the average person NEEDS to know all the elements.
Only if you want to sing the Song properly and completely. :)
> Andreas
Padraic. -- Bethes gwaz vaz ha leal.