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OVS langs (was: Star Trek (was RE: Star Trek)

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Friday, May 19, 2006, 12:34
Jean-François Colson wrote:

>>>Is there really a human language somewhere on the planet >>>that's OVS? Where? How widely spoken?
> Occasionally Esperanto. For example here is a phrase I remember from Kajto's CD Procesio > Multkolora: > La momenton de retiriĝo (object) devas scii (verb) la ludist (subject) > But does that count? Eo has a rather free word order.
No, it does not count. Such word orders are bound to occur in languages with free word order. In Vergil's Eclogues we find: 'Omnia vincit amor' = 'Love conquers everything'. If the direct object is fronted, as it may be, in a German or Welsh, then we _must_ have OVS word order. If we extended the description 'OVS language' to include any language where the order OVS _may_ occur, then we would almost certainly have a few thousand. But this is not the normal, unmarked word order of those languages. When we label a language as a 'OVS language' we mean one in which OVS is the normal word order in unmarked sentences with no emphasis; and such languages are rare. Esperanto no more qualifies as a OVS language than does Latin, German, Welsh etc. -- Ray ================================== ================================== "A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language." J.G. Hamann, 1760


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