Not going to the store, was: going without "without"

I wrote:

> You *can* even say "All of us aren't going to the store" in some
> contexts. It means, of course, "None of us are going to the store"
> but defines "all of us" as a single body rather than a collection of
> individuals each with their own plans.
And kept thinking about it when I'd already gone to bed, so much that
I contemplated going downstairs to write this but fell asleep before
I could...

Positive:

  Anini alea  dinyes     le  denayn
  1p-S  all-A shop-ill-s RFL put-1p-PRS
  "All of us are going to the store"

Unmarked negative:

  Anini nalea  dinyes     na  le  denayn
  1p-S  none-A shop-ill-s NEG RFL put-1p-PRS
  "None of us are going to the store"

That is, every one of us decided for him/herself not to go.

Only the verb negated:

  Anini alea  dinyes     na  le  denayn
  1p-S  all-A shop-ill-s NEG RFL put-1p-PRS
  "All of us aren't going to the store"

That is, all of us collectively (perhaps a little defiantly) decided
not to go.

Only the subject negated:

? Anini nalea  dinyes     le  denayn
  1p-S  none-A shop-ill-s RFL put-1p-PRS
  "None of us are going to the store"

I'm not sure whether this is grammatical; probably not. It would mean
that there's a specific nobody who is going.

Goal negated:

  Anini alea  ni  dinyes     na  le  denayn
  1p-S  all-A NEG shop-ill-s NEG RFL put-1p-PRS
  "All of us aren't going to the STORE"

But we may be going to the market. It can do without _na_:

  Anini alea  ni  dinyes     le  denayn
  1p-S  all-A NEG shop-ill-s RFL put-1p-PRS
  "All of us aren't going to the STORE"

meaning the same thing, perhaps putting slightly more emphasis on the
fact that we *are* going somewhere. Whether or not to negate the verb
is a matter of dialect and personal choice; pedants and people from
the north (some would say that's a tautology) will put _na_ in more
often.

Let's negate everything and see what happens:

* Anini nalea  ni  dinyes     na  le  denayn
  1p-S  none-A NEG shop-ill-s NEG RFL put-1p-PRS
  "None of us aren't going to the store"

That's one negation too many, apparently.

   Irina


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