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Re: That pesky H again (was: varia)

Date:Friday, February 4, 2000, 23:19
> -----Original Message----- > From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU]On > Behalf Of Raymond Brown > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2000 1:28 PM > To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU > Subject: That pesky H again (was: varia)
> >I did not know this. Are you saying that the "(" mark did not in > >fact indicate an initial [h]? > > I don't know exactly what Philip means, but I say that "(" marked initial > [h], but not initial /h/ > > I think the ancient Greeks were showing an intuitive awareness of the > function of [h] in their language when they chose to mark it with a > diacritic rather than a separate letter. It seems to me to more simply > explain (1) many features of the language if [h] is regarded as a prosody > rather than a phoneme in ancient Greek, cf the word for "hair": > > H > Nom: trik-s --> thriks > > H > Gen. trik-os --> trikhos > > and the verb "to have" > > H > pres. eko: --> ekho: (I have) > > H > fut. ekso: --> hekso: (I shall have) > > A lot of irregularities suddenly disappear :)
Ah... interesting. I've been wondering, when ( is written over the second vowel of a diphthong, such as in e(i-, is the [h] pronounced before the first vowel, or the second? (i.e. [hei] or [he:] vs. [ehi]) Also, I find the idea of suprasegmental aspiration interesting. But is there really such a thing as an aspirated vowel? I've had an idea to make final vowel+h become an aspirated vowel, which would then aspirate the previous consonant but lose aspiration on the vowel: H tah -> ta: -> tha: Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo suHnus