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Re: Interbeing

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Saturday, February 23, 2002, 1:42
David Peterson wrote:

>In a message dated 02/20/02 4:36:23 PM, romilly@EGL.NET writes: > ><< >2A) "A mata oliala imata ie kawi ae iko kapivi...... >
Any possibility [vowel-initial glottal stops] would be a non-phonemic feature of Kamakawi? >>
> >Actually, when I read it, the next vowel sort of drowns out the previous >vowel, so it comes out as: >[amatolialimatiekawiaikokapivi]. I haven't sat down and figured out rules >for the way I myself pronounce, or how I think it should be. However,
>there really are no initial glottal stops (that phoneme surfacing as [h] >word-initially), it could be. Or maybe it could be designated to classes. >What I noticed was that when I would put together sentences, there would be
>lot of one-letter particles in the beginning or in places, so I decided to >contract them as a convention. So, maybe it could be like important words >(nouns, adjectives, verbs) would get the initial glottal stop so that they >stood out (especially if the accent fell on the first syllable), whereas >particles and function words would go without... Very interesting. You've >given me much to think about. :)
Just the Malayo-Polynesianist part of me speaking...... but it strikes me that in a language with this structure, and with lots of important 1-syl. vocalic grammatical particles, you might lose a lot of information if you allow vowel-elision. >[amatolialimatiekawiaikokapivi] might be read "ama toli a limati eka wia iko kapivi", which could be quite another thing altogether. (Though stress would probably keep a lot of ambiguity at bay)....Yes, an interesting problem.