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Re: Ungrammaticalization?

From:Jim Grossmann <steven@...>
Date:Friday, July 16, 1999, 8:41
Yo, Josh!

The ghost of Dr. Freud just told me that your ungrammaticalization may be
your subconscious manifesting its rejection and liberation from your
grammar-nazi past, but we don't have to believe Sigmund just because he's a
ghost.

"Ungrammaticalization" may not be the best term here:   it sounds like
you're taking something grammaticalized and then, say, lexifying it.    Like
moving from "-s" possessive to having phonologically unrelated words for the
nominative/possessive forms.

BUT SERIOUSLY,

Is it possible that all this loosening up is a result of your explorations
in grammar?

Quite a few people who do a lot of phonetic transcription report that their
spelling has gone downhill as a result.    Could something analogous be
happening to your spoken grammar?

Keep posting,

Jim









>I've just recently noticed myself doing something somewhat odd (odd >because I was a fervent prescriptive grammar nazi for very many years): >I'm producing constructions that the average English speaker would deem >incorrect; and what's more, my brain tells me that the way I'm doing it >*is* correct. Examples:
>"Sang" has dropped out of existence in my speech. My brain insists on >"sung" for the simple past tense.
>Somewhat similarly, "drunk" and "swum" have almost disappeared, being >replaced very often by "drank" and "swam." I sometimes do the same with >"ran" as a past participle.
>Really weird: the other day when my mother asked my how much of something >I wanted for dinner, I caught myself replying, "Any much would be all >right."
>And like I said, it isn't as if I don't know proper English grammar: I >can still write perfectly normally. My brain just seems to be instituting >a program of very rapid language change for no particular reason. Has >anyone else run into anything of the kind?
>Josh Brandt-Young <neonwave7@...> >http://geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/6073/ >"After the tempest, I behold, once more, the weasel." >(Mispronunciation of Ancient Greek) > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.